KENDO UI

 After reviewing the Kendo UI documentation and doing some testing, I can confirm that the sort configuration in the kendo.data.DataSource or kendo.data.HierarchicalDataSource object is only applied when the data source is initially created or when new data is fetched (e.g., via AJAX or when calling read method).

However, if you modify the data source's data directly (e.g., by adding, removing, or updating items), the sort configuration is not automatically applied to the modified data.

To ensure that the sorting is applied after modifying the data source's data, you need to call the sort method explicitly, followed by updating the widget's UI.

Here's an example:

javascript
let dropDownList = $("#ddlUsers").data("kendoDropDownList");
let dataSource = new kendo.data.DataSource({
  data: [...data],
  sort: { field: "Name", dir: "asc" }
});
dropDownList.setDataSource(dataSource);

// Later, if you modify the data source's data
dataSource.data().push({ Name: "New Item" });

// Sort the modified data
dataSource.sort({ field: "Name", dir: "asc" });

// Update the widget's UI with the sorted data
dropDownList.data(dataSource.view());

In this example:

1. The initial data source is created with the sort configuration.
2. Later, a new item is added to the data source's data.
3. The sort method is called explicitly to sort the modified data.
4. The data method of the DropDownList is called with the sorted view of the data source to update the widget's UI.

The same principle applies to the kendo.data.HierarchicalDataSource used with the DropDownTree and TreeView widgets.

So, while the sort configuration in the data source object is honored when the data source is initially created or new data is fetched, it does not automatically sort the data when you modify the data source's data directly. In those cases, you need to call the sort method explicitly and update the widget's UI with the sorted data.

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K

"Sorting defined in the dataSource configuration object of DropDownList or TreeView will only be applied during initial data binding."

is this true?

Yes, that statement is correct.

The Kendo UI documentation confirms that the sort configuration defined in the kendo.data.DataSource or kendo.data.HierarchicalDataSource object for a DropDownList, TreeView, or any other widget that uses these data sources, is only applied during the initial data binding.

From the Kendo UI documentation on the sort configuration:

"If set, the data items will be sorted initially by the specified field and sorting direction. The sort configuration is only applied during the initial data binding."

This means that if you define a sort configuration in the data source object, the sorting will be applied when the data source is first created and bound to the widget. However, if you subsequently modify the data in the data source (e.g., adding, removing, or updating items), the sorting defined in the configuration will not be automatically applied to the modified data.

To sort the data after modifying it in the data source, you need to explicitly call the sort method on the data source instance, followed by updating the widget's UI with the sorted data.

In summary, the statement you provided is accurate: the sort configuration in the data source object of a DropDownList, TreeView, or other Kendo UI widget that uses these data sources, will only be applied during the initial data binding and not automatically after modifying the data source's data.

K

is $("#dropdowntree").kendoDropDownTree({ dataSource: dataSource,

same object that is kendo.data.DataSource?

No, $("#dropdowntree").kendoDropDownTree({ dataSource: dataSource }) is not the same object as kendo.data.DataSource.

In this context:

• $("#dropdowntree").kendoDropDownTree({ ... }) is a jQuery selector that retrieves an HTML element (e.g., <div id="dropdowntree"></div>) and initializes a Kendo UI DropDownTree widget on that element with the provided configuration object.
• dataSource: dataSource is a property in the configuration object that specifies the data source for the DropDownTree widget.
• dataSource (without the kendo.data prefix) can be either:
  1. An instance of kendo.data.DataSource or kendo.data.HierarchicalDataSource (if you've created one separately).
  2. An array of data items (for flat data sources).
  3. A configuration object that will be used to create a new kendo.data.DataSource or kendo.data.HierarchicalDataSource instance internally by the DropDownTree widget.

So, dataSource in the configuration object is not the same as kendo.data.DataSource, which is a class constructor function provided by the Kendo UI framework.

If you have already created an instance of kendo.data.DataSource or kendo.data.HierarchicalDataSource separately, you can pass that instance to the dataSource property:

javascript
let dataSource = new kendo.data.DataSource({ /* ... */ });
$("#dropdowntree").kendoDropDownTree({ dataSource: dataSource });

Alternatively, you can pass a configuration object to the dataSource property, and the DropDownTree widget will internally create a new kendo.data.DataSource or kendo.data.HierarchicalDataSource instance based on that configuration:

javascript
$("#dropdowntree").kendoDropDownTree({
  dataSource: {
    data: [...data],
    // other data source configuration properties
  }
});

In summary, dataSource in the DropDownTree configuration object is not the same as kendo.data.DataSource, but it can be an instance of kendo.data.DataSource or a configuration object that will be used to create a new kendo.data.DataSource instance internally by the DropDownTree widget.

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K

but when I do let dropDownList = $("#ddlUsers").data("kendoDropDownList");

dropDownList.dataSource

it returns me an object?

Yes, that's correct. When you retrieve the dataSource property from a Kendo UI widget instance, it returns an instance of the kendo.data.DataSource (or kendo.data.HierarchicalDataSource for hierarchical widgets like TreeView and DropDownTree) object.

Here's what's happening:

1. $("#ddlUsers").data("kendoDropDownList") retrieves the Kendo UI DropDownList widget instance associated with the HTML element with the ID "ddlUsers".
2. dropDownList.dataSource is the dataSource property of the DropDownList instance, which holds the instance of the kendo.data.DataSource object that was either:
   • Created internally by the DropDownList widget based on the dataSource configuration you provided during initialization.
   • Or, an instance you manually passed to the dataSource configuration during initialization.

So, when you access dropDownList.dataSource, you're retrieving the actual kendo.data.DataSource instance that the DropDownList is using as its data source.

This kendo.data.DataSource instance is an object that provides methods and properties for working with the data, such as filtering, sorting, paging, and more. It's not just a plain array or configuration object, but rather a specialized object designed to manage and manipulate data for Kendo UI widgets.

You can then use this dataSource object to perform various operations on the data, like sorting, filtering, or retrieving the current view of the data:

javascript
// Sort the data source
dropDownList.dataSource.sort({ field: "Name", dir: "asc" });

// Filter the data source
dropDownList.dataSource.filter({ field: "Age", operator: "gte", value: 18 });

// Get the current view of the data source
let dataView = dropDownList.dataSource.view();

So, in summary, when you access dropDownList.dataSource, you're getting an instance of the kendo.data.DataSource object, which is a powerful data management object provided by Kendo UI, and not just a plain configuration object or data array.

[4:08 PM] Abdul Rahman Kidwai

https://docs.telerik.com/kendo-ui/api/javascript/data/datasource/configuration/sort

sort - API Reference - Kendo UI DataSource - Kendo UI for jQuery

In this article you can see how to configure the sort property of the Kendo UI DataSource.

[4:22 PM] Abdul Rahman Kidwai

 

 

This dataSource property is of type this only this only I think

[4:22 PM] Abdul Rahman Kidwai

https://docs.telerik.com/kendo-ui/api/javascript/ui/dropdowntree/configuration/datasource

dataSource - API Reference - Kendo UI DropDownTree - Kendo UI for jQuery

In this article you can see how to configure the dataSource property of the Kendo UI DropDownTree.

[4:28 PM] Abdul Rahman Kidwai

 

 

This kendo.data.HierarchicalDataSource 

 HierarchicalDataSource Overview - Kendo UI for jQuery DataSource - Kendo UI for jQuery (telerik.com)

 

is a subclass of Kendo.data.DataSource

Configuration, methods and events of the Kendo DataSource component. - Kendo UI for jQuery (telerik.com)

HierarchicalDataSource Overview - Kendo UI for jQuery DataSource - Kendo UI for jQuery

Learn how to represent hierarchical data when using the Kendo UI for jQuery HierarchicalDataSource component, an extension for the DataSource control, in your JavaScript widgets.

[4:28 PM] Abdul Rahman Kidwai

Abdul Rahman Kidwai

https://docs.telerik.com/kendo-ui/api/javascript/data/datasource/configuration/sort

So we can use all these methods of Kendo.data.DataSource 

[4:28 PM] Dinesh Yadav

ok

[4:33 PM] Abdul Rahman Kidwai

 

All of these methods are available. Could be useful for future use.